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Mukemmel Makaleler; Zafer ToprakZafer Toprak, "Cumhuriyet, Demiryolu ve Laiklik: Bir "Modernite" Metaforu," Toplumsal Tarih, 168, Aralık 2007. Zafer Toprak, “Ermeni Sorunu’nda Dünü İnşa Etmek ya da ‘Mukatele’nin İcadı,” Toplumsal Tarih, 147, Mart 2006. Zafer Toprak, “Bir Hayal Ürünü: ‘İttihatçıların Türkleştirme Politikası,’” Toplumsal Tarih, 146, Şubat 2006. Zafer Toprak, Prof. Dr. The Atatürk Institute for Modern Turkish History Ataturk dedi ki...Emin miyiz? Ben lisede iken edebiyat ogretmenime sormustum (Umit hanim, sanmam ki hala hayatta olsun, mukemmel bir Istanbul hanimefendisi idi, ne cok sey ogrenim ondan) (Sene 1989)
- Hocam (cok kizardi kendisine hoca denmesine)
- Efendim Cem
- Ataturk bu kadar cok lafi gercekten etti mi?
- Ne demek istiyorsun?
- Yani, bunca atasozu gibi lafi gercekten o mu uretti?
- Elbette... Pek cok terimi o tercume etti (nerede ise butun beseri bilim terimleri onun tercumesidir) cevirdi, bu sozlerin buyuk cogunlugunu da o soyledi elbette. Sabaha kadar odasinda isik sonmezdi onun.
- Peki hocam
- Bana bir daha hoca dersen 0'i alacaksin Cem
Sevgili ogretmenim, tum saygimla, amma velakin, buyuk cogunlugu onun degil. Zamanla ogreniyor insan, uzulerek de olsa. Tamam biliyordum, daha o yillarda elimdeki Tarih kitabinin her sayfasi beni gulme krizlerine sokar, o dersi kendi bildigim sekilde ogrenip kitaptaki herseyle dalga gecerdim. Ama, "uydurmak" ve "ustunu ortmek" arasinda, "gormezden gelmek" ile "yoktan varetmek" arasinda cok aci bir fark var. Simdilerde donup baktigimda, bos yere dovunen, baskalarinin dahi olmayan, havada dahi duramayan fikirleri, gorusleri savunacagim diye kendini heba edenleri gordukce... uzulmuyorum aslinda. Onlarin da bir yeri var bu evrende. Herkes dahi olacak degil ya...
Istikbal Goklerdedir...
M.K. Ataturk... boyle yukari dogru bakan resmini de dusunun. THK posterinde. Degil mi?
Degil. O soz Moussolini'ye ait. Hadi biraz arastirma, hepinize iyi gelecektir. Ben dedim diye degil, kendiniz arastirip ogrenin, hadi...
Saglam kafa, saglam vucutta bulunur...
M.K. Ataturk... eh, artik, 19 Mayis mi dersiniz, beden egitimi dersi mi dersiniz, saglik mi kalir, saglik ocagi mi... her yerde. Degil mi?
Degil. "Mens Sana in Corpore Sano". Latince, roma doneminden kalma bir deyis. Evet, Roma donemi, Osmanli'dan da eski. Hadi kiyamadim, bunu arastirmak zor gelir diye ben size ipucu vereyim: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_sana_in_corpore_sano. Gerci, Ingilizce oldu, kusuruma bakmayin.
Saglicakla.
Yok, "Turk, ogun, calis, guven" Ataturk'e ait; bildigim kadari ile :)
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900) Bu arada, eger Ittihat ve Terakki, 1802, I. Mesrutiyet, II. Mesrutiyet, Zafer Toprak, "Bir Hayal Urunu: Ittihatcilarin 'Turklestirme Politikasi'" kelimeleri ilginizi cezbediyor ise, muhakkak okumaniz gereken bir makale burada. Bu Turkce
Turkish VillageI've come across this amazing article today. Pay attention to the date: 1965; to my amusement, it is still valid, true to the letter and quite insightful. I enjoyed it throughly, mostly because - I think - it aligns well with my way of comprehension and my own experiences. I do not, however, think that it is "personal" or "subjective" in its depiction of Turkey, Anatalia and the village life. I find it very comprehensive and accurate. This is a must read for anybody interested in the socio-economic and socio-politic fabric of Turkey; urban and rural.
Cheerios
-Icy
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Villagers frequently talk about law, kanun, usually in the course of explaining institutions or behaviour, or in arguments about rights. These references imply a finality; the law is the law and that is that. On the other hand they know that the law is often ignored in the villages, and are not impressed when an opponent uses law as an argument. `Kanun manun yok köyde, there is no law and all that stuff in the village' one of the men of Sakaltutan once remarked.
In fact, of course, the law affects the villages profoundly and in many ways. The main obvious impact is threefold. First, administrative law and regulations, and especially the Village Law, sets out the formal arrangements for village institutions and for relations between village and state. Secondly, the villagers are frequently charged in the criminal courts, mainly for breaches of the peace and acts of violence. Thirdly, rights to land can only be finally decided by the civil courts. As I have shown z] (p. 209) the effect of those parts of the Civil Code that govern marriage and the family have at present almost no bearing on the village.
Turkish Village
Copyright 1965, 1994 Paul Stirling. All rights reserved.
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Click here to read the entire article by Paul Stirling on the web site of Univercity of Kent at Canterburry, UK. Excellent HistoryA very well written article on the History of Turks, Ottomans, Arabs and the region in general.
Although I no longer enjoy discussing the issue with anybody, I still feel obliged to relay articles that are well prepared, thought and researched, as they pop infront of me out of nowhere. This is one such article. It's quite long and meticulously well prepared. I am extracting the "hot topic" issue part, to which I have given a lot of space in this blog with references and bibliographia. As I said, I am disgusted at its current state, the way both sides argue it and the rest of the world act the idiotic herd of sheep. Don't forget: "History belongs to people who write it", and "the victor lives to tell the story". Enjoy. And please, don't buy everything you read, see, hear. Do a research on your own accord, with all this wealth of information, none of us has the luxury to be so poor.
Cheers.
- icy
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Still Standing for Islam - and Against Terrorism By Mustafa Akyol FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, October 08, 2004 Armenian Genocide?
Mr. Bostom speaks about the Armenians, too. But in a different way. He writes about the "Armenian genocide committed by the Ottoman Turks during the initial two decades" of the 20th century, adding yet another link to his chain of evil.
But that is an argument by assertion. "Armenian genocide" is not an established historical fact, it is the "Armenian thesis" that some prominent historians such as Bernard Lewis find erroneous. The Turkish thesis is that there was not an extermination policy against the Armenian population of Turkey in 1915, as has been alleged, but rather the tragedy was mutual killing in war conditions. The slaughter of tens of thousands of Muslim (Kurdish and Turkish) civilians by the Armenian militias aligned with the invading Russian army gives credence to that assessment.
Justin McCarthy, professor of history at Louisville University, in his book titled Death and Exile: The Ethnic Cleansing of Ottoman Muslims, 1821-1922, documents this view. As historian Daniel Pipes well summarizes, McCarthy's book, "Puts into perspective the deportation of Armenians in 1915 and turns this from an act of hatred into one motivated by fear (had the Armenians, with Russian support, rebelled, Ottoman Muslims could have expected to be slaughtered)."
In his book, Justin McCarthy examines many of those incidents in which Armenian rebels killed local Muslim populations. During the Armenian revolt, which preceded the alleged "Armenian genocide," Everything Islamic in Van was destroyed. With the exception of three antique buildings, all the mosques were burned or torn down. The entire Muslim quarter was destroyed. When the Armenian work and the battle between Ottomans and Armenians were finished, Van more resembled an ancient ruin than a city . . . When the Armenians attacked Muslims' own villages or nearby villages, Muslims fled with whatever moveable property they could carry. On the road, Armenian bands first robbed them, then raped many of the women and killed many of the men. Usually, but not always, a number of women and young children were killed as well.[xv] In fact, "After the Armenian retreat, much of eastern Anatolia was a graveyard."[xvi]
What is called the "Armenian genocide" was partly the attacks of revenge on the Armenian population by local Turks and Kurds. That was indeed inter-communal violence. On the other hand, the decision by the Ottoman government to deport the Armenians in Eastern Turkey caused many deaths and that is horrible, but it was not a genocidal policy either. According to McCarthy, The Ottoman response to the Armenian Revolution was approximately the same as that taken by other twentieth-century governments faced with guerrilla war: isolate the guerrillas from local support by removing local supporters.[xvii] Thus, McCarthy concludes, "The blame for the deaths of Armenians in the convoys must be shared by the Ottomans -- shared with the Armenian revolutionaries and their supporters and with the Russians"[xviii] </quote end>
Click here to read the entire article (I highly recommend it. As I said, it is not limited to the issue above, nor Turks, neither Islam)
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